Hi, folks, I'm joined by Dr. Nima Parvini, otherwise known as the academic agent,

who has decided to come in and join me for a chat about the current state of play on the

political right, both domestically and internationally, and what we might be expecting

to see the future. Dr. Parvini, how are you doing?

Well, thanks for having me, Carl.

That's pleasure. Right, so what's your lay of the land at the moment?

Because just for anyone who's watching this, Kirstama has just outflanked everyone to the right.

He's somehow won over a lot of the kind of hard-right Twitter folks with his, I think the most important part was

when he said that immigration had been an unmitigated disaster in Britain, which condemns

morally all of the people who had supported immigration up until this point. And it's

run it, it's had them running around like headless chickens. What are we going to do?

Because our biggest champion up until this point has suddenly betrayed us all.

Yeah, and in fact that speech by Starmer was notable being not only a moral conduct, it was a thoroughgoing

repudiation of the mass immigration experiment, as he described it. Everything since 1997 on immigration.

He didn't just say that it was creating, I mean, islands of strangers that had the headlines.

He actually took away the economic argument, which has been very central.

It's always been justified as the link between GDP and immigration and growth, those three things

going together.

And he took that head on.

He also, I don't know if you caught this, in that speech, I got a kind of deep-seated, almost

loathing of libertarianism from Stama, where he said basically that,

you know, we have a responsibility to govern.

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