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everything secure. This is John Batchel, a conversation with colleague Conrad Black about

energy in Canada. Is Mr. Carney, the Prime Minister, sincere about reversing his long, long

plaint for green technology and green admissions and climate policy in order

to turn to the bounty of the Alberta sands, oil sands, and the bounty of mining in the north.

And all this requires as pipelines to get rich.

Richer.

They were already a rich country.

Pipelines to the west to ship to Asia and China.

Pipelines to the east to ship to Europe.

And then Conrad reminds me, Montreal.

Here's Conrad.

Frustration.

There's no pipeline to Montreal. Well, all right,

here you'll explain. Much more of this tonight. Absolutely. Ohio should lead the way in innovation in defense tech sectors, other tech sectors, in the next generation economy,

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