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you listen to podcasts. This is John Bachelor, conversation with my colleague Conrad Black, distinguished biographer,

about Canada's economy and the family and the growth and the conduct of the government with high taxes.

There are several statistics that jump out,

but the one that Conrad here recounts

is how Canada has gone from staying competitive with Australia and the United States

to falling behind dramatically in these last years.

How it happened is part of the mystery.

Here's Conrad Black on Canada falling out of line

and falling to the back of the line for prosperity for families.

And not only that, you know, for almost all my life and I'm unfortunately getting to be slightly

elderly now, I mean I can get a reduction on the public transit system for age if I whatever ask for it but

the the it all almost all of that time we and Australia were just behind the

United States and per capita income.

I mean, you'd be about 95% of the US or 90, 90, 95%.

And now we're down $18,000. So in a family that's per capita, so in a family of four, you know,

that's almost, that's 76,000 dollars in a year. Well, that's a different altogether a different

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