This is John Batchel, conversation with colleague Conrad Black about Canada. What a beautiful

and happy and lucky place it is. And yet, the anxiety. Here, Conrad addresses the new prime minister

and the expectation that Canada will rise to the challenge of its defensive networks, what it

needs to defend itself.

Here's Conrad on what next for Canada with Mark Carney in command.

More of this later tonight.

Now, we have a new leader now, and we'll see how he goes.

I think he's off to quite a good start, so we just have to see how it goes.

And I would never

have a fear of him at a meeting like like this NATO meeting you'll be fine you know

the but because of your president pounding the table they've gone from saying

all right we'll get up to 2% of GDP on defense by 2030 they're they claim they're going to get there next year and

they're going to go above 2%. So that's one of the things I think that would address a problem.

If we had our own armed services of a scale that were remotely adequate to defend the country,

and instead, basically, our defense policy has been just to keep the phone number of the Pentagon to hand at all times, you know.