This is John Batchelor, conversation with Judy Dempsey of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

She's in Berlin.

With the striking news that Germany is in the process of closing its borders to nine neighboring countries.

Closing its borders.

Judy explains there is an exception in the EU that permits closing borders temporarily.

However, Judy Dempsey now tells us that she must show her passport when traveling from Germany to another country such as Poland, there's duty to explain.

This in response to the vote for the AFT in Turinje and Saxony some days past.

Olav Schultz is reacting by closing borders.

More of this tonight.

There is an exception in the terms of the high national security risk.

And given recent terrorist attacks and attacks on people by those who were part of the Islamic

terrorist organization and then attempted attacks on the Israeli consulate in Munich and

and so forth. They now believe the government believes that this has the right under national security terms to actually

close the borders. You could do this for a limited time, but they would probably do this over the coming

days and they have been actually doing it bit by bit.

I can no longer across from Germany, for instance, in Deppola without showing our passport.