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This is John Bachelor, continuing my conversation with the author Charles Spicer, his

amazing new book, Coffee with Hitler.

The Untold Story of the Amateur Spies who tried to Civilize the Nazis includes the outreach by British dignitaries

to Hitler in the years before the war when they were looking to work with him or in some way bring him into the European conversation of getting along, comedy, peace.

The most important meeting place for all of these conversations was the cabin

rebuilt into a palace, Berghoff, near Bechtus-Garden on the Austrian German border and Charles Spicer here introduces us to that

building. Coming to visit Hitler at that building most notably in the

pre-war years was David Lord George, the former British Prime Minister, who was

the supervisor of the British victory over Germany in 1918 and then one of the principles the Versailles Treaty, along with President

Wilson, Prime Minister of Clemensau of France and the punitive Versailles treaty that Hitler and his allies used to stir up the German people in the 1930s.

Lloyd George was the catch and a major success for the principles of this book,

all part of the Anglo-German Fellowship,

that Lord George made the trip,

talked with Hitler. Of course this is all wasted on the

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