I mean, just going back to the original analogy, I mean, you know, so much of the law and so much of the way that the law is conceived in the United States and particularly at the federal level is conceived as being this, you know, kind of grand concrete structure when in reality, it really is this amalgam in this patchwork. And, you know, kind of to pull it back, I know a little bit to your notes. I mean, it's about, and kind of what Nova said kind of at the beginning of the episode, this, it's about, you know, so much of due process is essentially about creating regular outcomes, right? Creating predictable outcomes, creating outcomes that are, you know, to the extent that they

are bipartisan are ones that are about creating a safe, you know, a safe place space for capital,

correct? I mean, there's about creating this very,

you know, that's the purpose of these norms. I mean, you know, in the field in which I work,

you know, there's a, there's been significant amount of debate. I mean, the last time that the

United States passed significant labor legislation was 1947. I mean, maybe 19, you know,

maybe the early 1950s, but it's been a significant period of time.

And there's been an ongoing conversation within a lot of folks in the labor movement, particularly

over the course, you know, since the Reagan era, particularly over the class last 20 years, about

whether the settlement of the National Labor Relations Act was something that was really worthwhile,

whether that was something that, you know, unions still actually benefit from this, you know,

attempt at labor peace between labor and capital. And I think that, you know, what you're seeing now,

where very recently, Gwen Wilcox, who was one of the National Labor Relations Board members,

was, you know, unlawfully fired by the Trump administration. She's now been put back to work, but that

that's currently being appealed, and there's a very good chance that the Supreme Court is going to overrule the

precedent that'll, you know, prevent, uh, prevented the Trump administration arguably from firing

her at the point where that agency then loses a quorum and becomes nonfunctional, is it then,

you know, on one hand that is seen as a victory by a lot, you know, by Musk, by the Trump

administration, by a lot of the, you know, management forces by the tech billionaires backing Trump.

But at the same time, it, you know, one of the factors that made the National Laborizations

Act worthwhile is that it would create a way of regulating the labor strife that royal the country

of the 1930s. And if we lose that at that point,

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