This is John Batchel, a conversation with Charles Gasparino, the author of the new book,

Go Woke, Go Broke, which is a story of what Charlie correctly presents as the radicalization of the CEOs of America,

the S&P 500, and all the wannabes.

Here, I suggest that perhaps this started in the Human Resources Department and worked its

way through the corporation before the CEOs embraced it.

Charlie says no the other way around.

And then he describes Davos as group think and explains how it is that once the CEOs decided that ESG and DEI and the other

acronyms associated with woke capitalism were appropriate for their operation, everybody followed

everybody else. Here's Charlie Gasparino. Go broke is the new book. And this is what

happens at Davos with all the CEOs, the most powerful men and women in the world, taking notes

on how to play the ESG game along with others? More of this tonight.

Great question. I don't think so. I think it was embraced at the top and I think it got infused

into the corporate ecosystem at places like Davos and the UN began with it, with ESG,

environmental, social governance investing, DEI. And, you know, and these sort of, you know,

it's interesting, you know, CEOs are very, very, very much into group think. I mean, all these

guys, they all go to Davos. I mean, I've been to Davos. I mean, it literally is group think,

progressive group think on steroids. And, you you know they take notes and you know they do

what this guy does and they and their clients breathe the same air as they do and it becomes a sort of

you know it becomes this whole sort of you know you're all eating off the same plate so you're all

catching the same virus,

so to speak, if someone is sick.

And, you know, and I think that's kind of like where this thing started to populate.

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