What I think we need to do in this country now is to bring out our best bridge builders on both

sides of this growing divide and actually learn from mediators. They're skilled mediators, you know,

who are good at active listening, good at finding the threads of agreement. And focusing just on that,

the way just a few small victories going. And recently I wrote an op-ed for the New York Times

with my son, who was an ardent environmentalist, and head actually at the California Energy

Commission. And David, my son came down with me, and we had a wonderful discussion with Mike Schaff,

who opens the book. He's Chapter 1 of Strangers, Big Tea Party guy, but, you know, wants clean air and clean water. And so we started

there. You know, you kind of agree on that. Well, it turns out that Mike is all for alternative

energy. You know, he says, well, look, I've worked in oil all my life, but oil's going out. It's not

going to last.

It's finite commodity, and it does pollutes.

So what do you got that's better?

You explore those areas in kind of an open spirit with someone whose humanity you see and respect.