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Michael and Us

PREVIEW - #423 - The Silence of Pod

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 2 minutes

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PATREON-EXCLUSIVE EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/423-silence-of-82062473 Your hosts agree that Martin Scorsese's SILENCE (2016) is one of his great films, but also find room for discussion on how their differing backgrounds with religion affect their perspectives on the spiritual side of Scorsese. PLUS: Elon Musk's Twitter: is there a plan? (Hint: no)

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0:00.0

So he actually, it seems, has managed to remain a Christian in his heart to the very end of his life.

0:06.6

Now, I think there's a lot of ambiguity in this film. But for me, you know, I have just a humanist reading of this, as I have a humanist reading of the sort of moral dilemma that's confronted by the Christian characters throughout the film, which is just, if that means anything, well, what it means is twofold.

0:22.1

One, God is silent, so you can't do anything about that. Whether God exists or not, it's

0:27.8

unknowable, and you don't have any say in the matter. You can believe in God, you can not believe in

0:33.3

God. That's kind of up to you. But there's an important implication of that, which is that what you can

0:39.0

control is what you do on this earth and whether you try to live a virtuous life, whether you try to

0:44.3

adhere to a moral belief system, or try to find some kind of deep moral foundation and live your

0:49.8

life according to it. You know, I think that's what matters. And if the film has any message, to me,

0:55.2

it's that one, although I suspect that my reading of it is somebody, you know, I do think it

1:00.1

sounds like you and I maybe experience the film a little differently, and that might actually

1:03.9

have something to do with our different religious backgrounds, or in the case of me, my non-religious

1:08.6

background. Luke, whatever love you can get and give,

1:12.3

whatever happiness you can filter provide,

1:15.1

every temporary measure of grace, whatever works.

1:18.4

You know who said that?

1:19.8

Mr. Woody Allen.

1:22.1

In a film almost as good as this one.

1:24.4

You know, in a godless universe, that's all you can do,

1:27.2

says my moral beacon, Mr. Woody Allen. know, in a godless universe, that's all you can do, says my moral beacon,

1:29.0

Mr. Woody Allen. Well, if you watch anything else, I think that's all the proof you need that we

1:33.3

live in a godless universe. I certainly agree with your humanist reading of the film and with the

1:39.3

decisions that the Andrew Garfield character eventually makes. It's funny, I think the main reason why the film is still ambiguous and why somebody like me can read it as ambiguous,

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