This is John Batcher.

Conversation with Colle leaven of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft,

asking why Mr. Blinkin of the United States and Mr. Lamme of the United Kingdom traveled the

Kief to pledge their continuing support. There was also a request and

Anatole explains for the war aims at Kief, have they changed from the original

absolutist-maximalist point of reclaiming all of Ukrainian territory from the Russian

aggressor. His Anatole's analysis, more of this tonight.

And you know, one of the reasons, and they said this, though, this hasn't been tremendously emphasized but it is there if you read the reports.

Why Blinken and Lamy went to Gieff they said.

It was to pledge continued support for Ukraine, but they also said that they were going to ask what Ukraine's goals are now in the war, which basically means what are the minimal terms

that Ukraine could accept in a peace settlement or a ceasefire.

And that we don't know.

Zelensky has said that he is presenting a new peace plan.

He's going to present a new peace plan in Western capitals

and to both the Kamil Harris and the Donald Trump teams.

But we don't know what's in it.

I mean, if it's anything like the previous Ukrainian plan which demanded complete Russian withdrawal and war crimes trials and reparations, well that's pointless.