This is John Bachelor, in a conversation with my colleagues, Andrew McCarthy of National

View Online and Thaddeus MacCowder of American Greatness.

I puzzled over the news of an imminent indictment of the former president of the United States,

Mr. Trump, by Jack Smith, the special counsel to do with the January 6th events of 2021.

And he steered the conversation away from an actual January 6th event to a question

of fraud, that is, as I understand it, fraud is necessary and cash is necessary in order

to link the president to fundraising that was done fraudulently after or during or around

the time of the January 6th event.

Fundraising itself is argumentative.

It's about building a fund to fight the so-called stolen election.

That was a large story and fraud is necessary if the prosecutor is going to advance his case

against Mr. Trump, speculate Andrew McCarthy.

Here's Andy explaining.

If you strip out the violence of January 6th, that is to say, if the, no matter whether

you think Trump is morally and politically culpable for the riot, if he is not, if they

don't have evidence that would make the violence of the day actionable against him, then what

you're left with is sort of creative theories of how his conduct in the, from the election

day in 2020 until the riot and then beyond, whether that can somehow be brought under the

rubric of fraud and corruption as it exists in federal penal law.

And this is why John, I've always thought, and if that is, may have a different view

on this, but I've always thought that one of the reasons that Smith was brought in as

a special counsel, even though there was no reason for the Biden Justice Department to

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