This is John Bachelor, conversation with Charles Burton of Synopsys about the death of

Leichaang, a man who was seen as an alternative to Sheejin Ping, died in 2023.

Tributes to Lika Chang are now being suppressed in some fashion in China.

Why?

Charles here explains three different times over the life of the Chinese Communist Party.

There have been men such as Lee Kachang, he was the third time.

First with Cho and Li, his death led to grief expressed by the Chinese people an alternative

direction from the Stalinism of Mao.

The second time was a man who died in 1989 who you are bang and his death and the grief over it

contributed it believed to the Tiananmen Square protests of students and others saying open up the economy.

And the result of that was a tragedy that still haunts China.

And now Li Kach Chang dying suddenly while swimming at a residence

unexplained dying a young man at a residence and Charles here explains what each of these men represented and represent

still to the Chinese people why they would pay tribute to them on a day that is the festival of the dead.

Charles Burton's Synopsys, Senior Fellow Synopsys in Canada.

Good evening.

Well, there seems to be a pattern in Chinese communism of using the

festival of the dead to pay tribute to to leaders who represented a different political vision from the existing political

authority. So in the case of the first one that you cited Joe and Lai in he died of cancer in

in 1976 when the festival the dead came people went to the to the monument to revolutionary martyrs in Tenement Square and put, you know, great tributes of flowers and wrote poems in beautiful Chinese calligraphy to commemorate the loss.

The thing is that Joe and Lai was perceived at the time as being someone who was more practical

and more dedicated to economic development and more diverse

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