Preventing Problem Behaviors with Universal Protocols: Session 182 with Kevin Luczynski

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Matt Cicoria

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🗓️ 17 March 2022

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Kevin Luczynski joins me for a really fun conversation in Session 182 of The Behavioral Observations Podcast. If you're not familiar with Kevin, he is an Assistant Professor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center and the Director for the recently initiated Virtual Care Program at the Munroe Meyer Institute.

In this episode, we cover the following:

How Kevin discovered Behavior Analysis.
How Kevin endeared himself to his then co-worker, now wife, and previous BOP guest, Dr. Nicole Rodriguez.
What inspired some of the early Preschool Life Skills studies.
How universal protocols like Balance and PLS fit into PBIS.
The role of preference for contingent reinforcement, and,
A brief primer on Joint Control... something I am not very familiar with, but am looking forward to learning more about, especially at Kevin's upcoming talks at the 2022 Verbal Behavior Conference.

Kevin also leaves us with four pieces of just outstanding advice. I've been pushing my guests lately to really think hard about answering this question lately, and Kevin does not disappoint. As such, you're going to want to listen through to the end.

For Patreon subscribers, we spend an additional 5-10 minutes talking about his interest in the role that ecological validity plays in applied research.

Here are some resources for what we discussed:

Session 164 with Kelsey Ruppel.
The folks at FTF!
An Introduction to Joint Control. Lowenkron (2006).
The maintenance of behavior change as an indicator of social validity. Kennedy (2002).
Nearly all the other publications we discussed.
Never split the difference, Chris Voss.
How to have impossible conversations, Boghossian and Lindsay.
Cruciallearning.com.

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0:00.0	Hey, everybody. Welcome to session 182 of the behavioral observations podcast. I am joined today by Dr. Kevin Lazinski and boy, do we have a fun conversation. If you're not familiar with Kevin or his work, he is an assistant professor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. He's also the director of the recently initiated virtual care program at the Monroe Meyer Institute.
0:23.0	And like I said, we covered a lot in this episode.
0:25.4	We talked about how Kevin discovered behavior analysis, how he endeared himself to his then
0:30.1	co-worker now wife and previous behavioral observations guest, Dr. Nicole Rodriguez.
0:36.4	We talk a lot about universal protocols, hence the headline to this, or title to this
0:41.6	episode, specifically preschool life skills, and to a lesser extent, the balance program
0:46.9	as discussed previously by Kelsey Ripple and other friends of ours at FTF behavioral consulting.
0:57.7	So we talk about what inspired some of the early preschool life studies, where things like
1:02.9	balance and preschool life skills fits into the larger PBIS context.
1:08.0	We also spend a decent amount of time talking about the role of preference for
1:13.3	contingent reinforcement, something that's, you know, I just really have been having a hard
1:17.1	time wrapping my mind around, and so we get into that a little bit. And then we talk about
1:22.3	a topic that Kevin will be presenting at this year's verbal behavior conference, and he's
1:27.1	giving us a kind of like a
1:28.6	rundown or a joint control 101. This is a topic I really don't know a lot about to be perfectly
1:35.3	candid with you and I really learned a lot in his brief description of it in our conversation today
1:42.9	and I'm even more so looking forward to getting
1:46.1	a deeper dive into joint control at the conference. So yes, the conference itself, the verbal
1:53.4	behavior conference, it's taking place on April 7th and 8th in Austin, Texas. It's also
1:58.6	available virtually. So I will be down there in Texas
2:03.1	visiting there for the first time and I'm really looking forward to it. And if you are attending,
2:07.9	please be sure to say hello. If you'd like to attend, you don't know how to sign up, go to
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