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American History Hit

President Grover Cleveland: Honest to a Fault?

American History Hit

History Hit

America, History

4.31.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

They say that honesty is the best policy, but was this the case for Grover Cleveland? He may be the only president to have served two non-consecutive terms (as of 13 June 2023), but Cleveland was deeply unpopular by the end of his last term.


From protecting the interests of the American people and upholding the constitution, to a secret lifesaving operation - what defines the 22nd and 24th President?


In this episode we find out with two guests. The first is President Cleveland's grandson, George, who introduces us to Grover from inside the family. The second is Professor Mark Summers, author of 'A Good Man is Hard to Take: Grover Cleveland – Man of Destiny'.


Produced by Freddy Chick and Sophie Gee. Edited by Aidan Lonergan. Senior Producer was Charlotte Long.


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0:00.0

With a bushy mustache and bright eyes, George Cleveland's is a face full of character.

0:06.0

Looking almost like a man from another era, you can easily picture him in black and white,

0:11.0

the spitting image of his ancestor, his grandfather, President Grover Cleveland.

0:17.0

I realize a lot of people find that a little weird, as how can I be the grandson of somebody who was born in 1837 regardless of whether he

0:24.2

happened to be president or not.

0:26.0

The answer is really quite simple.

0:27.4

It's a matter of sex and it's a matter of math.

0:30.2

Grover was born in 1837.

0:32.3

He married my grandmother in the White House in 1886. It was a romance

0:36.8

not unlike that that was described when Charles and Diana got together. You had an older

0:41.9

guy and a very attractive younger woman. But anyway, my father ended

0:46.7

up being born in 1897 and then he had three kids from his first marriage. He met and married my mother when she

0:55.9

was teaching his kids from that first marriage and she was about 25 years

1:01.6

younger than my father.

1:03.2

So basically, we dropped a whole generation.

1:06.2

George is a member of the Society of Presidential Descendants,

1:09.4

which is a group of individuals with a direct lineage to one or more of the 46 presidents of the United States,

1:16.2

a group that provides camaraderie, where the great granddaughter of Calvin Coolidge can shoot the breeze

1:21.3

with, say, the great-great-grandson of Ulysses S Grant.

1:25.0

It was kind of the brainchild of Tweed Roosevelt, the great-grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt.

1:30.6

We do have an unwritten rule.

1:32.4

Nobody rags on the other person's president.

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