Presenting Up and Vanished Weekly: Peter Van Sant discusses Mark Stover

Blood is Thicker: The Hargan Family Killings

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🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

When celebrity dog trainer Mark Stover mysteriously vanished, authorities were left with many unanswered questions. Soon into their investigation, they unearthed a dark love triangle, with Mark placed squarely in the middle. So what transpired on the morning of October 28, 2009, that left one man dead and another claiming self-defense? And more importantly, was Mark Stover the hunter or the hunted? Listen in as Peter Van Sant sits down with journalist Maggie Freleng and the two go behind the scenes of "Trained to Kill: The Dog Trainer, The Heiress and the Bodyguard," a culmination of Peter’s years-long investigation into this twisty case. From Tenderfoot TV - new episodes of "Up and Vanished Weekly" with Maggie Freleng and Payne Lindsey release every Wednesday on all listening platforms. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Up and Vanish Weekly is released every Wednesday and brought to you absolutely free.
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0:18.5	This podcast discusses mature and sensitive content, including descriptions of violence that may be triggering for some audiences.
0:27.0	Listener discretion is advised. Hey, y'all. Welcome to Up and Vanish Weekly. I'm your host, Maggie Freeling. Today's case isn't a whodunit, per se, with a super urgent call to action. We mostly know what happened.
0:57.9	Instead, this case is emblematic of the best and worst of human nature. This case is a love triangle
1:06.0	and murder that has kept the attention of veteran journalist and award-winning correspondent for 48
1:12.3	hours, Peter Van Sant. Peter has had a nearly 50-year career as a journalist where his true
1:19.0	crime and justice reporting is featured across multiple CBS News broadcasts and platforms.
1:24.8	Additionally, Peter hosts the Blood is Thicker podcast and Train to Kill, which we'll
1:30.0	be talking about today. So, Peter, thank you for joining me on Off and Vanish Weekly. We are so
1:36.1	excited to have you. I am even more excited to be here. Thanks so much for having me.
1:42.2	Okay, so to start, I just want to let listeners know if they don't know who you are, one of the correspondents for 48 hours for how many years now?
1:51.2	Around 20 years for 48 hours, 41 years with CBS News.
1:56.5	I also worked in Idaho, Iowa, Nebraska, Texas, and Georgia before I got to the network. So it's been a long journey to say the least, but I love it.
2:06.3	Nearly 50 years as a reporter and correspondent, that is amazing. And I just want to list off some of your journalism accolades.
2:15.3	Three Murrows, multiple Emmys, a DuPont. I mean, you have done some
2:20.6	incredible work that's taken you to North Korea, Bosnia, Albania, you reported on September 11th,
2:25.8	Katrina. I guess as a journalist, my question for you is, what is that like to report on
2:30.8	so many different kinds of stories? I love it. Back in the day when I joined CBS News,
2:37.7	you had to work your way up through local news. And so I had done a couple thousand stories before
2:43.9	CBS hired me and working in Washington State in Idaho, Iowa, Nebraska, Arizona. But once you just have that natural curiosity,
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