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Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.6 • 863 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Natalie is a Jewish Iranian-American who grew up in New York. She was partying at the Nova Music Festival in Israel when Hamas attacked.

Today, she uses her experience to advocate for the Combat Antisemitism Movement.

She and Josh discuss Gaza, the Israeli occupation, hatred, love... and her experiences that day.

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0:00.0	Gahey, humans.
0:03.0	Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas.
0:05.8	And it's undoubtedly one of the most dangerous ideas in the history of the world.
0:10.9	Jew hatred.
0:12.6	Ah, sniveling little Jews.
0:14.6	They're too rich.
0:15.4	They're too poor.
0:16.0	They're too conniving.
0:16.8	They're too powerful.
0:17.6	They're too weak.
0:18.2	They're just not quite right.
0:20.4	And it's tricky to understand what the difference is between Jew hatred and criticism of Israel, which is not Jew hatred, criticism of the occupation, which is not Jew hatred, criticism of the Gaza War, which is not Jew hatred, criticism even of the idea of there being a religious ethno state in the Middle East, especially for Jews.
0:39.2	I wouldn't say that's Jew hatred either.
0:41.5	You know what is Jew hatred?
0:44.3	When you are a pro-Nazi jihadist death cult in the 21st century massacring and slaughtering Jews.
0:55.0	I think that fits the bill.
0:58.0	And that's what happened on October 7, 2023, and that's what happened to today's guest.
1:04.0	The borderline cases of anti-Semitism are interesting to me and really genuinely hard to wrestle with. I mean, my country of
1:12.4	Australia has currently got its pants on fire about this scandal involving a couple of nurses
1:19.2	who apparently at a Sydney hospital were on a kind of a chat roulette internet chat site and
1:26.3	an Israeli blogger and influencer seems to have gotten them to
1:31.1	say some pretty horrendously anti-Israeli things. They're boasting about refusing to treat Israelis.
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