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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

PREMIUM-Ep. 266: Jonathan Lear's Plato: Psyche and Society (Part Two)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

Casey, Paskin, Philosophy, Linsenmayer, Society & Culture, Alwan

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2021

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Continuing on Lear's Open Minded: Working Out the Logic of the Soul (1988). Our highlight is about the relation between the three parts of the soul: which (if any) is basic?

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0:00.0

Welcome to the preview for the partially examined life episode 266, part two on Jonathan

0:12.1

Lears, essay Inside and Outside the Republic from his book Open Minded 1998.

0:17.0

The chunk I'm going to play you is actually from the middle of our recording where we start

0:22.0

to tease out the idea that these distinct parts of the soul, the rational, the appetitive

0:27.6

and the spirited can have causal efficacy on each other because they all ultimately are

0:32.2

built out of the same faint.

0:33.2

There's an idea that comes from Freud, everything is libido, so we start arguing about that

0:37.5

here and that argument continues after this clip.

0:40.6

I want to remove at least this much behind the paywall set up before you because I think

0:44.8

it's pretty philosophically central.

0:46.7

Enjoy.

0:47.7

Plato's picture seems to be between parts that are in conflict, right?

0:53.2

Parts of the soul or individuals in society and when you open up this idea of information

0:58.9

transfer, then it's like the parts actually interpenetrate each other.

1:03.0

Political fights are not just a bunch of isolated individuals competing for dominance and some

1:08.4

of them are ruled by reason and some of them are ruled by Thumus and some of them are

1:12.2

ruled by, it seems like the Thumus people would win every time if that was really the case,

1:17.1

but the locus people can convince the Thumus people of something.

1:20.6

The Thumus people can then realize that it is their proper place to let the logos people

1:26.3

call the shots and for them to play their part.

1:29.3

That information transfer, that what actually takes the form in Plato's Republic of the

1:33.8

noble lie of telling the guardians that the state is their parent and that they don't have

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