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The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

PREMIUM-Ep. 265: Plato's "Phaedo": Philosophy as Training for Death (Part Two)

The Partially Examined Life Philosophy Podcast

Mark Linsenmayer

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4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2021

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Continuing on the Phaedo, we start with a point from Plato's physics that's supposed to hep prove the immortality of the soul, then lay out his theory of Forms.

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0:00.0

This is the preview for the partially examined life episode 265, part two on Plato's dialogue

0:11.9

Fado.

0:12.9

You're going to have right now here toward the beginning of that discussion, us delving

0:15.9

into detail on Socrates' proofs for immortality of the soul, and in the course of this, his

0:20.9

theory of forms.

0:22.4

Enjoy!

0:23.4

Now we get a bunch of arguments for the souls of immortality, and this is the first one,

0:27.6

but some people sometimes call the cyclical argument, or what I like to call the recycling

0:32.4

argument.

0:33.4

It begins with this, opposites come from opposites, principle, consciousness.

0:38.2

What do we think of that?

0:39.2

It doesn't sound plausible.

0:41.0

So the reason he wants to introduce this is because where do living things come from,

0:46.9

they must have come from death.

0:48.8

They must have come from something that existed before death.

0:51.8

This is how he's going to apply it, but he thinks this is generally applicable.

0:55.5

If you want to understand more readily in connection, not only with mankind, but with

0:58.6

all animals and plants, and in general, for all things subject to coming to be, let's

1:02.6

see whether everything comes to be in this way.

1:04.6

Opposites come to be only from their opposites.

1:06.5

In the case of all things that actually have an opposite, as for example, the beautiful

1:10.4

is opposite, of course, to the ugly, just the unjust, and so in countless other cases.

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