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Hello and welcome to the Progressive Football. The podcast that follows the money behind our beautiful game I'm Kevin Day.

And he is football finance expert at Liverpool University, Kiran McGuire. Hello Kiran, how are you?

I'm very good, thank you, Kevin. Rocking and rolling, who's always?

I'm going to let the listeners into a little secret here, Kiran, because we are recording in a new, more efficient way.

But it means we can't see each other, which I'm slightly worried about as I'm just hoping you're not making as well.

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