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This is going to be sort of a demanding talk in some ways.

It doesn't start off too technical.

It gets a little bit more technical as we move along.

My suggestion is, and all along the way,

there are going to be things that are probably going to send off questions in your mind.

And so, but one sort of section kind of builds on the other. So if you can kind of just

keep with me, it'll help. Otherwise, a few sections down the way, you'll be lost. So maybe jot

down a quick question if you have one, and we can come to that in the Q&A part. All right. Well,

let me, I thought I would begin by asking, I mean, I know this is a sort of an ecumenical group,

an ecumenical campus, but can I just see a show of hands if you're

Catholic? Okay. And you'll see why I'm asking that in a second. Okay. So now for those Catholics,

a show of hands, if you have ever heard the topic of predestination addressed in a homily.

I think there's a hand. There is actually one head, which is, which I mean, more than maybe I was

expecting. Yeah, neither have I. I'm an adult convert to Catholicism

when I was a younger adult, and I haven't ever heard predestination brought up in a hovely.

So how many of you, for the Catholics, how many of you have,

if you think of predestination, do you think that that's something that Catholics believe in?

All right. That, that, I think that would be better than average if you were just asking a group of Catholics.

So I teach at a Catholic university.

And even among some of my students are seminarians, college seminarians.

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