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Crime Junkie

PRECEDENT: Daniel M’Naghten

Crime Junkie

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True Crime

4.7358.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In 1843 Daniel M’naghten gunned down another man in broad daylight. But when he was taken to trial things got complicated. His defense argued that he shouldn’t be held fully responsible because he wasn’t in his right mind. However, the courts didn’t know what to do with that because there was no precedent for this kind of thing. So his defense team got to work putting in place a defense strategy that is still used, almost in the exact same way, almost 200 years later.

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0:00.0

Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host Ashley Flowers, and I'm back on this Labor Day Monday with

0:06.0

your 8th out of 10 bonus precedent episodes. Now, in this episode, I'll be discussing something

0:12.1

that every one of us has probably heard about, or at least seen on television or in the

0:17.3

movies. It's a common defense strategy, one that we see in cases where a person is accused

0:22.4

of a particularly gruesome or disturbing crime, most often murder. People like Andrea Yates,

0:29.1

the Houston mother, who in 2001 drowned her five young children in a bathtub, and Ed

0:34.6

Gehn, who murdered two women in Wisconsin and used the skulls, skin, and body parts of

0:39.5

eight others to make clothing, masks, and even a chair. Others like Ted Bundy, Jeffrey

0:45.4

Dahmer, and John Wayne Gacy attempted the defense, and were denied. But all of them claimed

0:51.3

that they were not guilty by reason of insanity. But what does that mean? Who decides? And

0:57.5

what are we measuring these claims against? Well, that measuring stick can be tracked all

1:03.4

the way back to 1843, and we are still using that same reference point almost 200 years

1:10.4

later. Before there was not guilty by reason of insanity, there was Daniel McNaughton. This

1:17.8

is his story.

1:48.0

On the cold morning of January 20th, 1843, a man named Edward Drummond was walking from

1:59.4

his apartment on Downing Street in Whitehall Gardens, London, to his boss's office a few

2:04.4

blocks away. Edward was a close personal friend and associate of England's prime minister

2:10.1

at the time, a man by the name of Sir Robert Peel. The two men both lived and worked near

2:16.6

the palace of Whitehall and would constantly be walking back and forth between government

2:21.6

buildings or to a local cafe. On this particular morning, just as Edward was leaving the prime

2:27.6

minister's quarters at 10 Downing Street to grab a cup of coffee, a stranger came up behind

2:33.2

him on the sidewalk and fired a pistol point blank right into his back. Immediately after

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