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CBS I on the world. I'm John Bachelor with my friend and colleague Gordon Chang at

Gordon G Chang. War with the People's Republic of China. Is it upon us? Is it coming soon? How would

we know? We welcome Professor Jim Holmes of the U.S. Naval War College, he is a surface warfare veteran. He holds the

Wiley chair of maritime strategy at the war college. He blogs at the Naval

Diplomat. We now examine a new weapon system

that is getting much attention because of the war in Europe.

The whole idea here is a submersible drone, is to say a robot that does the work of a submarine and can do the work of reconnaissance as well.

Jim a very good evening to you the submersibles suddenly get to the front of the line because

of what we're learning in the Black Sea. Where is the U.S. Navy in developing Submersibles, drones,

and what capabilities do they now have that would be

applicable to a conflict with the People's Republic, especially on their home waters.

Good evening to you.

Hey, John, hey Gordon. Yeah, this you. Hey, Jordan.

Yeah, this is really the cutting edge of where we stand with our force development efforts.

I mean, the Navy's been, it's, I guess we're sticking with the subsurface realm so on main and submarines.

The Navy's been experimenting with various sizes and shapes and various types of drones that can do different things.

The current very large one, I think it's called the

orca if memory serves it's about 80 feet long and something that has the capability

to do to do mining is it can do it can do a variety of things.

Assuming the technology pans out.

I think we're still finding out exactly what the limits of the possible are, but that certainly

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