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This is CBS I in the world.

I'm John bachelor United States Navy in the end of Pacific.

The challenges, the swift and unending build out of the PLA Navy.

Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague and co-host.

And we're very pleased to be joined by our colleague, James Finnell, formerly intelligence operations officer

for the 7th for the Pacific Fleet.

Now observing from the relative frustrating place of land,

but remembering his days at sea and as an officer charged with what is the future?

Asking Captain Finnell, what is this going to look like in 2020 or 2025 or 2030?

Just so happens that James produced a chart that I have in front of me.

Jim, a very good evening to you.

Thank you for this.

When you produced this chart, the US Navy was confident it maintained supremacy in the Indo-Pacific.

That now is called into question by a lot of editorials based upon numbers.

What was then your understanding of the PLA Navy?

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