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#PRC: Leaving China: Charles Ortel of the On the Money with Charles Ortel podcast @GordonGChang, Gatestone, Newsweek, The Hill

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🗓️ 8 June 2023

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#PRC: Leaving China: Charles Ortel of the On the Money with Charles Ortel podcast @GordonGChang, Gatestone, Newsweek, The Hill

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/foreigners-pull-more-money-out-china-may-2023-06-01/



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0:00.0

This is CBS, I'm John Batch with Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague in

0:09.8

calls. Gordon wants about a time. The Chinese miracle, and I can recall Wall Street

0:15.5

discovering this year after year, saying China is the future. You need to put your

0:22.6

money into China as well as the European markets and the emerging markets. What

0:27.0

happened, Gordon? Because I no longer hear that. But then again, I don't listen to the deep

0:32.2

insiders, just the bubblers at the top. Are the deep insiders still saying China, China, China?

0:39.1

I think the deep insiders would like to say China, China, China. And Jamie Diamond and Elon Musk

0:45.4

were just in China. But the problem is that it is now apparent to even Wall Street that the

0:51.8

structural problems inside China have overtaken things. And that Xi Jinping's drive to push the

0:58.7

foreigners out has really made it very clear that there is a structural and political problems

1:05.3

in China which can't be solved under Xi Jinping. We welcome Charles Ortella, our colleague of

1:10.5

on the money with Charles Ortella to comment on a Reuters story in these last days.

1:16.2

Foreign investors selling of Chinese shares gained some momentum in May as flagging domestic

1:22.3

demand and expectations for weak corporate earnings led to steep falls on mainland and Hong Kong

1:28.4

stock markets. Charles, I've learned to say that when the stock market in New York gets in trouble

1:34.3

is when everybody tries to get out through the same door. Is that happening in China? Good evening

1:39.1

to you. Good evening to you and to Gordon. I think the China story has really been built on

1:47.6

theory and not really very much on the most important element of investing which is driving

1:52.8

to return on your investment. Everyone always talks about the future and there's all these people

1:57.6

in China and of course it will be built out and of course labor was cheaper there. But I challenge

2:03.1

the China bulls to demonstrate with specificity how investors can regularly get dividends and

2:10.4

principal out when they want to get it out. And I think the realization that you can't do that

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