This is CVSI and the world. I'm John Vatch with Gordon Chang at Gordon G Chang and we welcome

Comron Bocari, senior director, Eureation Security and Prosperity Portfolio, New Lines

Institute for Strategy and Policy.

Cameron, a headline in Reuters points to conflict ahead and the puzzle is how. Why the Indian Ocean could

be China's Achilles heel in a Taiwan war? I've been taught by you and others that the Indian Ocean has important

ports that China's building or owning. There's Guadar in Pakistan, there's the

report in Sri Lanka that nobody much uses, there's Djibouti on the

eastern side of Africa. That suggests that China feels secure in the Indian Ocean. Does India, does the Republic of India, does it

threaten China's security? Good evening to you. Hi John, so I don't think that the

Indians threaten China.

You know, as the Reuters report detailed, this is an issue between the United States and China.

So let's say China, you know, considers that seriously considers invading Taiwan. Well, it can't for a variety of reasons, and one of the biggest ones is that its oil that its economy, you know, basically thrives on,

comes from the Middle East and traverses through the Indian Ocean. Now these ports, they're not at the stage where the

Indian, I'm sorry, the Chinese Navy can project, you know, power and escort and provide for, you know, secure supply lines.

This is a theater, this is a battle space, a maritime battle space in which the United States has overwhelming dominance.

So in other words, the Chinese are unlikely, and they know this very well, that if they decide to go and become hostile with Taiwan,

then they better have a very good plan to be able to secure their oil supplies because that's one of the, if you will, counter points that the U.S. has at its disposal short of actually going to, you know, actually going to war with China over

Taiwan, which I find highly unlikely, but that's sort of the logic.

Let me see if I understand.

The Indian Ocean is not secure by China so far, projecting power.

But you do not believe that India would be the challenge, should there be a conflict in Taiwan it would be the US is

that correct camera that is correct and let me add that it's going to be a

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