This is CBS Eye on the World. I'm John Bachel with my friend and colleague Gordon Chang at

Gordon G. Chang. We're joined by our colleague, Brandon Wiker, whose new book is Biohacked.

China's race to control life in here is a great deal of excellent information about

COVID-19 in the origins. I mention, however, that Brandon's book is now available. It comes

at the same time, the London Times publishes revelations that, while not startlingly fresh,

tie together a number of dots about the origins of COVID-19. I recommend to everybody the

London Times, what really went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before COVID erupted. Brandon,

a very good evening to you. Congratulations for your book. I look forward to a lengthy

conversation about your research soon enough. But right now, your informed reading of the

London Times revelations, what most attracted you, what most surprised you that it is now confirmed

by this investigation. Good evening to you. Well, good evening, John. And thank you for having me.

And hello, Gordon. It's great to be back. It's a sense of vindication. You know, I've been talking

about this for years. And I think the thing that attracted me most about this piece other than the

fact that it is in this prestigious paper, they're finally talking about it in respectable society,

is the sense of urgency that was going on. The Chinese really wanted these weaponized pathogens. And

that is precisely what this is, weaponization of disease. Now, they claimed it was to create

vaccines that they were on the hunt for vaccines for coronaviruses in general going back to SARS in 2003.

But as I note in my book, the French who built this Wuhan Institute of Virology, where these

really risky experiments for being conducted, French intelligence warned the French firm, if you

build this in China, they will use this for bio weapons experimentation, not just for finding

cures. And that is precisely what was going on at that at that institute. So I think what the

bigger issue here is not only were they doing risky gain of function tests with help from US

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