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#PRC: Capital controls and the cash-poor #PRC economy. Fraser Howie, co-author Red Capitalism: The Fragile Financial Foundation of China's Extraordinary Rise. @GordonGChang, Gatestone, Newsweek, The Hill

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🗓️ 7 March 2023

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#PRC: Capital controls and the cash-poor #PRC economy. Fraser Howie, co-author Red Capitalism: The Fragile Financial Foundation of China's Extraordinary Rise. @GordonGChang, Gatestone, Newsweek, The Hill


https://www.reuters.com/markets/billionaire-investor-mark-mobius-says-he-cannot-take-money-out-china-fox-2023-03-05/



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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the World. I'm John Batch with my colleague and friend Gordon Chang at

0:09.5

Gordon G. Chang, puzzling about China investment, money in, money out, puzzling about the people's

0:17.2

Republic of China's aspirations in this year of recovery from the pandemic and the worldwide

0:23.0

inflation with a 5% target rate for growth in the calendar year. However, a story that requires

0:31.1

explication because it's suggestive but not at the same time definitive. Reuters reporting,

0:37.8

billionaire investor Mark Mobius says he cannot take his money out of China due to the country's

0:44.0

capital controls. The quote, I have an account with HSBC in Shanghai. I can't take my money out.

0:51.8

The government is restricting flow of money out of the country. Fraser Howey, the author of Red

0:58.5

Capitalism, is here to help us understand because there's language here that suggests trouble. But

1:06.1

Fraser, a very good day to you. Mark Mobius stands in for all the billionaires of the earth who

1:11.8

have over the last years done very well in China. Thank you very much. But now there's a bad patch.

1:18.5

Xi Jinping, the pandemic, the worldwide inflation, the supply chain. And Mr. Mobius is saying he

1:25.8

can't get his money out of an account in Shanghai. He goes further to say that the Chinese who

1:31.4

are exercising regulations that are burdensome. Can you help us understand, is this generally true

1:38.7

for billionaires with money in Shanghai or is this something special? Good evening to you.

1:44.5

Hello, John. He's partly right, but I think it's a very misleading story from him. Because Mark

1:51.4

Mobius, we think of as representing ultimate institutional investors, he has been a very well-known

1:56.9

fund manager running multi-billion funds and investing a lot of emerging markets. What he

2:01.8

seems to be talking about is his own personal account to HSBC. And as we know, China does have

2:10.1

capital controls. It is very strict controls on individuals moving their money out of China.

2:15.1

But in that currency-great wall that surrounds the economy, there are many windows and doors that

2:22.1

have been opened that are still controlled. They're not completely the wall has not been knocked out.

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