From MPR, this is Invisibilia. I'm Yo-A-Shaw. So earlier this season, we did a story about how

negative feelings about power can make some of us want to avoid power in our personal lives,

which can have consequences. I feel like I'm almost more comfortable smaller. But then,

occasionally, I'll get resentful or upset that I have found myself so small.

And while reporting that episode, I can't across some ways in which negative feelings about power

can also have structural consequences beyond the one and one intimate level. Consequences that

can show up in the workplace. Everybody can play the game, but not me. Like, there's a lot of

feelings of powerlessness. And we all know work sucks. But could these negative feelings be getting

in the way of seizing power to improve the workplace for yourself and others? Today, we will hear

the unconventional methods a union organizer uses to help workers believe in their power.

I'm going to give all of you a bunch of empty bottles of ketchup. The first, we're going to start

with a conundrum. What organizational behavior researchers call the self-selection problem,

which asks a basic question, is one reason we so often see bosses handling power badly,

you know, leaders who manipulate, take credit for others work, who put profits over people,

actually a problem with who ends up going after positions of power in the first place?

There are people who claim to be chickens and actually are in fact snakes. That's after the break.

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