This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Bachelor.

To Laurie Lake, to Laurie County, California, a million years ago, five million years ago,

filled with people with creatures called megafauna, saber-dutaggery, elephants, camels,

lots of camels, wondering around Southern California. You can find them all in the

tar pits in Los Angeles. But today, to Laurie Lake, until recently, was a vast emptiness.

At the edge of an extremely fertile area of California, to Laurie County, the San Joaquin Valley,

the bread basket of the solar system, and then the rains came, and then the snow came,

and then it got warm and the snow's melting. So I welcome Devon Nunes of the Devon Nunes podcast

and video cast. He's also the CEO and guru of true social, who is my correspondent on the water

situation, the hydrology of the San Joaquin Valley, which has been politically damaged for many

years, and now Mother Nature and the snow melt, because it's getting warm in California,

and six stories of snow have to go somewhere to get to the rivers. Are they going to fill to

Laurie Lake so that it's a threat to the region? Devon, a very good evening to you. One last we

spoke to Laurie Lake was okay, but you were concerned that the melt would come too fast and flood the

neighboring area. What is the status now? Good evening to you. Well, thanks, John, and you actually

brought back bringing back those dinosaurs about 20 years ago, 30 years ago, they actually found a,

I believe it was a brontosaurus out here, as they were not very deep. So yeah, this area definitely

had dinosaurs back in the day, and there's a farmer named JG Boswell, who came here in the 1920s

and 30s, and at a time when that was just kind of an area that was the old Lake bottom that some

of yours would be swampy, most of yours would just be dry as a bone. Usually, for sure, be dry by

July, August, and when I say dry, dry with tumbleweeds type dry, but he had a vision that some of that

land was going to be very fertile and went to, it's basically the low spot of the San Joaquin Valley,

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