Post-traumatic Growth in Communities of Color and NARM in the Classroom with Giancarlo Simpson
Transforming Trauma
Brad Kammer
4.6 • 141 Ratings
🗓️ 12 June 2020
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
"I really think it is important for us to really address our internal biases, call it out for what it is and ask yourself at that point, do we care to actually be better or do we care to stay the same?" ~Giancarlo Simpson, MS
Transforming Trauma host Sarah Buino and guest Giancarlo A. Simpson, MS, reconnect in the wake of George Floyd's death and the nationwide protests against racial violence and systemic oppression, providing real-time context to their previously-recorded conversation about NARM's ability to address complex trauma and support post-traumatic growth in communities of color.
Giancarlo shares with listeners that now is the time to look inward, to be vulnerable, to listen to others, to address our internal biases, and to actively work to be anti-racist. In their discussion both Giancarlo and Sarah provide resources on Anti-Racist learning, which are available in this online guide.
Recounting stories from his work as a therapist, mentor, and teacher of teens and young adults, Giancarlo centers the discussion on the corrosive effects of complex trauma, specifically within the Black community.
"The system in itself needs to shift in order for people to feel comfortable about who they are as individuals, because right now what the system itself is telling people, communicating to people, is that you are not good enough, and that in itself is reinforcing a lot of thinking, a lot of behavior that occurs in these environments and communities, and makes it very hard for us to get out of that, because we don't have enough individuals telling us otherwise, or showing us otherwise."
Giancarlo shares the ways he has begun using the NeuroAffective Relational Model, particularly in classrooms, to shift this implicit learning and the long-term effects of complex trauma, which includes the under-recognized impact of cultural, intergenerational, and racial trauma.
Giancarlo reframes the current nationwide protests against racial violence and systemic oppression as protests against needs not being met for Black Americans. Communities are coming together to communicate about environmental changes needed in response to centuries of oppression and violence. Instead of using old stereotypes like "angry black man" and "angry black woman", which shut down expression of authentic experience and make people feel bad for feeling, it is time for our culture to listen to and respect people's experiences.
Giancarlo suggests that our culture needs to do better in understanding the root causes for why the anger is occurring, instead of just focusing on behaviors - the outbursts, outcries, protests, violence, etc. All Americans need to listen to Black Americans, and not continue "minimizing the reasons why we feel the way we do, why we're hurting, why we're upset, what we're lacking, the things we're not receiving at the most basic human level." While this discussion can make some uncomfortable, it is essential for transforming trauma and leading to a more just, humane and healthy society for us all.
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RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Family First Adolescent Services
White Fragility: Why It's So Hard To Talk To White People About Racism - by Robin J.DiAngelo
Decolonizing Therapy for Black Folk (event)
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome to the Transforming Trauma Podcast, a complex trauma podcast through the |
| 0:10.9 | NARM Training Institute. My name is Sarah Bueno, and I'm so excited to be sharing today's |
| 0:16.7 | interview with you. Hey, transforming trauma listeners. |
| 0:22.7 | Please join us starting in June for our online NARM training in learning how to transform |
| 0:27.9 | trauma. |
| 0:29.0 | This online NARM basics training is available for professionals working with clients or populations |
| 0:34.0 | dealing with complex trauma. |
| 0:36.2 | Now more than ever before, it's essential that we learn how to resolve complex trauma and |
| 0:41.1 | support post-traumatic growth. |
| 0:43.3 | NARM provides a relational approach to addressing the current COVID pandemic and tools to support |
| 0:48.3 | healing in the aftermath of this collective trauma. |
| 0:51.3 | If you're looking for more advanced training in complex trauma and are working |
| 0:54.6 | in mental health, health care, education, substance abuse recovery, or allied fields, join us for |
| 1:01.7 | this Level 1 NARM training to become a NARM-informed professional. For more information and to apply, |
| 1:08.1 | please visit at www.narmtraining.com slash online basics. |
| 1:17.4 | Hi, thanks for joining us for today's episode. Today's guest is John Carlos Simpson, |
| 1:22.6 | and he and I recorded our original conversation a couple months ago, and we wanted to |
| 1:26.8 | bring him back to talk |
| 1:28.0 | about what's happening currently in June of 2020 with the protest in response to George Floyd's |
| 1:33.0 | murder. So let me introduce you to John Carlo. John Carlo Simpson is a mental health professional |
| 1:37.9 | currently working with couples, families, and young boys in urban communities. He sees the family |
| 1:42.9 | as an emotional system |
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