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🗓️ 9 April 2024
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“Post capitalism is not simply another ‘ism’ to replace previous ideologies. It’s not a euphemism for socialism or anarchism or Nordic capitalism—although it may contain some elements of each. Post capitalism is a conceptual container for social pluralities based on shared values that stem from an experience of the shortcomings of the existing system and the lived experience of life-centric alternatives.”
These are words written by today’s guest, Alnoor Ladha, along with his co-author Lynn Murphy from their book Post Capitalist Philanthropy: Healing Wealth in the Time of Collapse. We’ve brought on Alnoor to share more about what post capitalism is and how we can embody it and encourage it in our lives and activism.
Alnoor is an activist, journalist, political strategist and community organizer. He was the co-founder and executive director of The Rules and he is currently the council chair for Culture Hack Labs and co-director of the Transition Resource Circle.
In this conversation Alnoor takes us upstream to the ontological root causes of colonialism and capitalism, he describes the importance of cultivating what he calls spiritual-cultural praxis, he cautions against the commodification and exploitation of plant medicines, and invites us to study culture, become conscientious objectors of capitalism, and contribute to the collective prayer and movement for co-liberation of all beings.
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0:39.0 | Thank you. Oh. post capitalism is not simply some totalizing ideology. |
1:06.0 | It's more of a plurality. |
1:08.0 | It's a polycultural approach. |
1:10.0 | So if late stage capitalism and this current brand of capitalism, which we could call neoliberalism, |
1:17.0 | in the last seven years this kind of accelerated snowball effect of industrial capitalism, that dominant sort of form is essentially the |
1:26.9 | soil and the conditions by which post-capitalism is created. So if the dominant |
1:31.8 | culture can be described as monoculture, if we allowed the system to go to its logical |
1:36.9 | conclusion we'd all have Apple computers and Microsoft Office and Nike shoes and we'd listen to Beyoncée or whatever corporate |
1:44.8 | capitalism wanted us to listen to and be eating gMO Monsanto foods and you know that |
1:48.8 | that's kind of its trajectory and so the antidote to monocultures polyculture. |
1:53.0 | Many ways of knowing and being, seeing and relating to the world, |
1:56.0 | many tongues, many approaches, many cosmologies, many ontologies. |
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