Welcome to the Giants Talk podcast.

Here's Alex Babovich and Cole Kuiper.

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Hey, Giants fans.

Welcome to another episode of Giants Talk.

I'm Cole Kiper here with Giants Insider, Alex Pavlovich, and we're the host of the Giants Talk podcast right here on the NBC Sports

Podcast Network. We have a very, very, very, I'm going to throw a third very in there, special

guest today. Will Clark, Gi giants legend uh what can you say well will clark i was

about to say hall of famer but you know that's just a snub and something we won't get into

but giants are retiring number 22 this season after it getting pushed a couple of years and

we have will on to talk about it.

Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned the Hall of Fame stuff because we've talked about this a lot.

I mean, I just voted for the first time. And so it's very much in my head. And when I pull up

someone's baseball reference page now, that's kind of what I think about, like especially

in where. And I pulled up Will's page the other day and you know you go through it and you think about

what he does he didn't have like the traditional I mean he finished it 210076 hits 284 home runs

but he hit 303 and then what I always looked at was were they one of the best players

were they legitimately and I made this argument with Timmy, like he was the best

pitcher in the National League for a few years. And you look at Will Clark early in his career,

five straight years and All-Star, six out of seven years in All-Star. But I look at fifth place

in MVP, fifth place is MVP, second place, fourth place. So one of the best players in baseball for a five, six year stretcher,

which is, I think you look at the overall numbers and especially for first baseman, not going

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