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Pints With Aquinas

Pornography vs. Iconography w/ Jonathan Pageau

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Stthomasaquinas, Saintthomasaquinas, Mattfradd, Theology, Catholic, Dominican, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy

4.86.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2021

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Pints with Aquinas, I chat with Jonathan Pageau about how porn isn't art, it's an idol; and how icons aren't porn! We also talk about art, the covid lockdowns, and more.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

G'day there, welcome to Pints with Aquinas.

0:03.0

My name is Matt Fradd and I'm really excited to have Jonathan Pazzo on the episode today.

0:09.6

Jonathan Pazzo is a professional artist, writer and public speaker.

0:14.1

I've seen him give lectures with Jordan Peterson and Brett Weinstein and others.

0:19.1

He gives workshops and conferences all around North America.

0:22.4

He teaches carving, speaks on art, but mostly explores symbolic structures that underlie

0:28.1

our experience of the world.

0:30.8

Today we're going to be talking about the difference between iconography and pornography.

0:36.0

I've had this idea for a while that pornography is almost like the anti-icon, whereas the icon

0:41.8

reveals pornography conceals the mystery of the person.

0:47.4

That's what we'll talk about and I'm sure that Jonathan will have a lot of interesting

0:50.2

things to share.

0:51.8

Before we do that though, I want to tell you guys about Hello, which is a fantastic

0:57.4

app that can help you pray.

0:59.7

So if you've been wanting to pray, meditate more, it's the new year and all that, this will

1:04.4

help you do that.

1:05.8

Hello.com slash Matt Fradd.

1:09.3

It is the number one Catholic app in North America.

1:16.0

No one downloaded that.

1:17.0

Tons of five star reviews, very sophisticated, 100% Catholic.

1:21.0

It has sleep stories.

1:22.9

It'll lead you through lexio divinas if you know what that is.

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