Pope Fiction

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

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🗓️ 2 October 2024

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Have you ever wondered what podcasting pundits would have discussed during the Great Schism? Today’s Remnant episode might give you a good idea.Jonah is joined by George Weigel, distinguished senior fellow at the Ethics and Policy Center, to talk all things Vatican City. George and Jonah evaluate Pope Francis, dig into the historical relationship between the Catholic Church and state actors, and discuss just war theory as it relates to ongoing conflict in the Middle East and criticism of Israel. Setting their sights on the United States, they then turn to the wacky world of Catholic integralism and the anxiety reflected by the online ‘trad-cath’ movement. Further lines of inquiry include: How do we remedy contemporary cultural decay? How does one strike a balance between free expression and harmful hedonism? And what on God’s green earth is going to happen with the Catholic voting bloc? Show Notes: —George’s biography of Pope John Paul II —Tom Holland, Dominion —Irving Kristol: “Pornography, Obscenity, and the Case For Censorship” —The Dispatch crew on Pope Francis —Peggy Noonan on the choice between awful and empty —George on the new Great Awakening The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Oh, Ladies and gentlemen, uh, can I please have your attention.
0:17.0	Can I please have your attention?
0:19.0	Can you diggah! Go Joff, Jincan! Greetings dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Reminden
0:30.4	Podcasts, Fronty with the dispatch and dispatch media.
0:33.0	Very excited for today's guest.
0:34.8	I was just telling them this may be the longest scheduled in advance podcast I have done.
0:40.4	I can't even remember what prompted me to shout at my vast retinue of staff.
0:45.8	We need George Waggle on the podcast, but next thing I knew, like six months late, we got
0:51.0	them on the calendar for six months later. So I'm sure
0:54.5	we'll get to whatever it was that originally prompted me to say that. But George Weigel
0:58.8	is the senior distinguished fellow in religion. I didn't write that down.
1:05.4	Distinguished senior fellow at the ethics and public policy center he is a biographer of Pope John Paul the second
1:09.9	he is in my circle considered the Pope of Popeness and I would say popery but that has a negative
1:19.8	connotation and welcome to the remnant. Thank you Rabbi Goldberg. I want I say
1:26.4	Pope of Popeness I mean in a secular authoritative sense rather than any
1:30.6	theological sense although do I have this right?
1:33.3	You did attend seminary before you?
1:35.6	Yeah, I was, I was in the seminary high school and college
1:39.4	before I, as we now say these days discerned out and then went on to graduate studies and
1:46.6	theology. What is the derivation of discerned out is that a discernment is a
1:51.2	fancy 25 cent word for thinking through a vocation, a problem, an issue.
1:58.0	It's gotten very popular in the last 11 years because Pope Francis is a Jesuit.
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