Welcome to podcast deluxe episode two, your eye keep my side of the street clean of weekly cultural

review. I'm John Caramonica. I'm Joe Kastcarelli. If you were here last week, thank you. If you're

joining us this week, also thank you, podcast deluxe. In case you're unfamiliar is a spin off show

of podcast original recipe, which is our weekly music podcast here at the New York Times.

We're here on YouTube. We're talking pop music, TikTok, popular culture,

trending television, absurdist, fake avant-gardeists, like all these things like that, right?

Yeah, and where all those things intersect. Yeah, and inside of us is where they all intersect.

So this week, let's tell you a little bit about what we're going to get into. First,

we're going to talk about the idol. How could we not? We're going to talk about Taylor Swift.

And we're going to talk about Taylor Maddie Healy. We're going to do a lot of deep breath work

this week because it's tough stuff. Taylor Maddie Healy, Taylor and Ice Spice, Taylor Error's

tour, Question of the Week, Song of the Week. So let's just jump right into the idol.

You're the American dream. Rags to riches.

Trailers to mansions. You are fucking jostling.

Great lighters. Beautiful lighters. Big moment for Capri cigarettes.

Wow, true, true. And as a nonseven eye, as a non smoker can acknowledge that.

Episode one appeared on the internet or whatever these apps are on HBO. Max, sure, fine.

It was incredibly a big joy for me to download the Macs app. Really, really a great,

a great technological experience to have to have a Samsung password to download the Macs app.

That was great. I enjoyed that. It was great timing for a new show rollout.

So this show is about Jocelyn, who is a pop star in the mold of a Brittany, maybe a Miley,

there's like touchstones, maybe a little Madonna, who is either empowered or controlled.

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