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Infamous

Politics Collection: Fool Me Twice | Part 3 + Maria Butina Speaks

Infamous

Sony Music

True Crime, News, Relationships, Entertainment News, Society & Culture

3.8964 Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Paul is arrested and must defend his schemes over the years. Victims speak out about being played by Erickson for years, but apologies and contrition aren’t exactly his style. UPDATE 10/11: After we published these episodes, Maria Butina reached out to tell her side of the story. Stay tuned after the episode for an exclusive interview. Unlock all episodes of Infamous, ad-free right now by subscribing to The Binge. Plus, get binge access to brand new stories dropping on the first of every month — that’s all episodes, all at once, all ad-free. Just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:14.9

I'm Aaron Moriarty of 48 hours and of all the cases I've covered this is the one that troubles me most a bizarre and maddening tale involving an eyewitness account that doesn't quite make sense. A sister testified against a brother, a lack of physical evidence. Krossy Green has lived more than half his

0:19.7

life behind bars for a crime he says he didn't commit.

0:22.8

Listen to Murder in the Orange Grove,

0:24.8

the Troubled Case Against Crawley Green,

0:26.7

wherever you get your podcasts.

0:28.8

Campside Media.

0:32.8

Media.

0:36.6

Paul Ericsson was a GOP insider who met Maria Bhutina, a Russian gun rights activist who might also have been a spy and he started dating her

0:47.6

then Maria was called into the US Senate and she was charged with conspiracy to act as an agent of the Russian

0:55.0

Federation within the United States. The government alleged that Maria's

0:59.9

enrollment in a graduate program was a cover and that she was really working under Alexander

1:05.2

Torsion a powerful Russian politician making inroads with American political groups.

1:11.3

I think what the government saw was that you know this may be part

1:16.1

of an influence operation. In December 2018 Maria pleaded guilty and went to prison.

1:24.0

Two months later, Paul Ericsson was arrested.

1:28.0

The arrest really was sort of anti-climactic in a way.

1:32.0

At that point, I knew him, he knew me, I knew his lawyer, and so there was no reason to kick in the door with a

1:42.1

raid jacket and all the sort of stuff you see on TV and so it was really a matter of calling and saying

1:47.8

Paul I have a warrant for your arrest. I think he believed it was the government's intention of the time to indict him

1:54.7

for the same things that Maria was indicted for.

1:55.4

But Ericsson had been indicted for wire fraud and money laundering.

1:59.3

Charges relating to his businesses, compass care, investing with dignity, and the Bakken Oil Field Housing Project.

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