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Political Gabfest

Political Gabfest - Is Polling Broken?

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

News, Politics, Government

4.48.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz discuss the problems with issue polling and issues with political journalism; the chaos and conflict of Sam Altman and OpenAI; and the failure of the Oslo Accords and perpetual struggle between Israel and Palestine. Send us your Conundrums: submit them at slate.com/conundrum. And join us in-person or online with our special guest – The Late Show’s Steven Colbert – for Gabfest Live: The Conundrums Edition! December 7 at The 92nd Street Y, New York City. Tickets on sale now!

 

Here are some notes and references from this week’s show:

Nate Cohn for The New York Times: The Crisis in Issue Polling, and What We’re Doing About It and We Did an Experiment to See How Much Democracy and Abortion Matter to Voters

Claire Cain Miller and Francesca Paris for The New York Times: The Great Disconnect: Why Voters Feel One Way About the Economy but Act Differently

The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-Events in America by Daniel J. Boorstin

What’s the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America by Thomas Frank

Eli Saslow for The New York Times: A Jan. 6 Defendant Pleads His Case to the Son Who Turned Him In

Brian Beutler for the Off Message newsletter: The 2024 Election Is About Real Things

Charlie Warzel for The Atlantic: The Money Always Wins and Karen Hao and Charlie Warzel: Inside the Chaos at OpenAI

John Dickerson and Jo Ling Kent for CBS News Prime Time: What Sam Altman’s ouster from OpenAI could mean for the tech world

Pranshu Verman, Nitasha Tiku, and Gerrit De Vynck for The Washington Post: Sam Altman reinstated as OpenAI CEO with new board members 

Louise Matsakis and Reed Albergotti for Semafor: The AI industry turns against its favorite philosophy

Emily Bazelon for The New York Times Magazine: Was Peace Ever Possible? 

Ezra Klein for The New York Times’s The Ezra Klein Show podcast: The Best Primer I’ve Heard on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Efforts

Oslo on HBO

John Dickerson for CBS Mornings: Former President Jimmy Carter: “America will learn from its mistakes”

The Lady Bird Diaries on Hulu

Eleanor Roosevelt in a Coal by Bettman and The George Washington University’s Case Study: Eleanor Roosevelt’s Visit to Coal Mine (1935)

 

Here are this week’s chatters:

John: Julia Simon for NPR: ‘It feels like I’m not crazy.’ Gardeners aren’t surprised as USDA updates key map and U.S. Department of Agriculture, Agricultural Research Service: USDA Unveils Updated Plant Hardiness Zone Map

Emily: Liran Samuni and Martin Surbeck in Science: Cooperation across social borders in bonobos and The Bonobo Sisterhood: Revolution Through Female Alliance by Diane Rosenfeld 

David: City Cast Executive Producer, Nashville, Executive Producer, Austin, and Events Director, remote and The National WWII Museum: WWII Veteran Statistics 

Listener chatter from Dimitri in Boulder, Colorado: University of Evansville: Library of Congress Recognizes Plagiarized University of Evansville Archaeologist After 90 Years and Jessica Blake for Inside Higher Ed: Female Archaeologist’s Work Receives Overdue Recognition—90 Years Later

 

For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, David, John, and Emily talk about the death of former First Lady Rosalynn Carter and her 77-year marriage with Jimmy Carter. See also Rick Rojas for The New York Times: The Carters’ Hometown Mourns for the Love of a Lifetime and Peter Baker: Rosalynn Carter Helped Shape the Role of the Modern First Lady.


In the latest Gabfest Reads, Emily talks with James Sturm about Watership Down: The Graphic Novel. See also James Sturm and Joe Sutphin in The New York Times: In Times of Danger, There’s Strength in Numbers.

 

Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.)

 

Podcast production by Cheyna Roth 

Research by Julie Huygen


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Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Catfest. November 23, the is polling,

0:45.0

broken edition. I'm David Potts, Citycast.

0:51.0

It's actually pre- Thanksgiving here, making a little bit pre- Thanksgiving.

0:55.2

I'm in Washington, D.C., but excited for Thanksgiving, which is my Christmas, ironically.

1:01.8

I am joined by Emily Bazlan of the New York Times magazine in Yale University

1:05.4

Law School from New Haven. Hello Emily. Hey David. And by John Dickerson of

1:10.1

CBS Prime Time from New York City. Hello, John.

1:13.4

Hello, David.

1:14.7

Hello, Emily.

1:15.6

Did we work out the introductions properly?

1:18.6

Yeah, that was OK.

1:19.8

All right.

1:20.4

That worked fine.

1:22.0

No cross talk. This week on the Gabfest an influential article argues that polling is broken. Is it what does it mean for polling to be broken? How can it be fixed? Then the turmoil at open AI and

1:36.1

what it signifies for the rest of the world, for the political world, for the world that

1:40.6

we occupy, not just the world of technology.

1:43.2

We will talk to the Atlantic's Charlie Worsall about his reporting on open AI.

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