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Policymaking Is Not a Science (Yet) (Ep. 405 Rebroadcast)

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🗓️ 25 March 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Why do so many promising solutions — in education, medicine, criminal justice, etc. — fail to scale up into great policy? And can a new breed of “implementation scientists” crack the code?

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0:00.0

Hey there, Stephen Dubner.

0:03.9

Most episodes of Freakonomics Radio involve or even built around academic research.

0:09.2

Obviously, we think this research is interesting, even important, but the sad fact is that

0:14.4

a great deal of academic research, even the best stuff, often remains stuck in research

0:20.6

land.

0:21.9

Converting it into policy or behavior change is a whole other proposition.

0:26.1

I've been thinking about this dilemma lately as we are a few months into a new presidential

0:30.9

administration here in the US.

0:32.6

Some of the Biden administration's policy ideas plainly have a political component, but

0:37.8

there's also a lot of proposed policy that's drawn from, or at least tightly connected to,

0:44.0

academic research around things like poverty, healthcare, education, wages, energy, so on.

0:51.2

We will be exploring a lot of that research-based policy over the coming months on the show,

0:56.3

but first I wanted to play for you a very relevant episode we made last year, just before the

1:01.1

pandemic.

1:02.1

It is about how rare it is for good academic research to be turned into good policy.

1:08.7

This isn't all about blaming policymakers and politicians.

1:12.8

Some of the failure has to be attributed to the researchers themselves, as we tried to

1:17.2

make clear in the title of this episode, it's called policy making is not a science yet,

1:23.8

and it starts right now.

1:27.4

Usually, when children are born deaf, they call it nerve deafness, but it's really not

1:38.4

the actual nerve.

1:39.7

It's little tiny hair cells in the cochlea.

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