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Power Play

Policing the world: Michael Froman on limits to US power

Power Play

POLITICO

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4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The crisis in the U.S. House of Representatives is resonating far beyond Washington, not least in Ukraine, where the durability of America's commitment to the war effort has been thrown into doubt after future funding was omitted from its recent stopgap funding deal.

Can Ukraine and its allies in Europe go it alone without agreement on further aid from Congress? And is America’s foreign policy shifting away from the days of spreading liberal democracy?

In this week’s episode of Power Play, host Anne McElvoy talks to Michael Froman, president of the influential Council on Foreign Relations in New York. The Council’s recommendations are heeded in the Oval Office, State Department as well as European capitals — a bellwether for America’s approach to the world.

They explore how the U.S. foreign policy establishment is dealing with the war in Ukraine, the rise of protectionism, liberal democracy, China and the prospect of another Trump presidency. Are the days of America acting as the world's policeman over? 

Anne is joined by POLITICO's "Power Panel" to reflect on the choices facing the Biden administration and the impact in European capitals. This week's panel are Heidi Vogt, POLITICO's national security editor in Washington and Nicholas Vinocur, editor-at-large for POLITICO Europe in Brussels.



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0:30.0

Welcome to Power Play, Politico's Transatlantic Interview Show where I talk to the people who matter

0:39.5

to discover how power is changing in their worlds, what makes them tick and how they make decisions

0:45.2

that affect all of our lives, whether it's in politics, business, innovation or culture.

0:50.5

As we head towards another winter, the war in Ukraine grinds on and the

0:56.3

human and financial cost rises. We've had a reminder this week that not everyone

1:01.6

in Washington DC is keen to keep funding military aid to

1:05.3

Kieve.

1:06.3

We have breaking news from Capitol Hill.

1:09.7

Lawmakers may have found a way to avoid a government shutdown tonight just minutes ago.

1:14.7

The US government avoided a last minute federal shutdown after Congress agreed on a

1:19.6

short-term budget deal.

1:21.4

Crucially though, it excluded any new aid for Ukraine raising

1:26.0

questions about the durability of America's commitment. We cannot under any

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