From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

As protests continue across the country and around the world, we talk about a topic

very much under discussion right now, the way policing is depicted on television.

Dreamhampton, the executive producer of surviving R. Kelly, has spent years thinking about that

and worked on a recent report on the issue.

It found that often even good cops are shown trampling the rules, and that's presented as

heroism. But when that kind of policing happens in real life, the consequences can be tragic.

Brianna Taylor was just killed. The police barged in her apartment, guns drawn after midnight with a no-knock warrant.

This is a storyline we have seen as a show like 24 all of the time.

Then Dan Tiberski made a podcast devoted to the reality show, Cops. What he found was disturbing.

Teperski also looked at the show's spiritual successor, Live PD. Last year, that

show's cameras rolled as officers patrolled in Williamson County, Texas. A man didn't dim his

headlights. They chase him, they tase him, they kill him. And it's all filmed by a television

show. Were they chasing that man at 1.30 in the morning because it was good policing?

Or were they chasing him because it was good television?

Now with cops canceled, we talk again with Tversky.

But first on the news banter, can Hollywood rise to this moment?

Stick around.

It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my colleague in banter, Matt Bellany.

Hello, Matt.

Hi there.

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