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The Politics Guys

Policing Bills, Berman Firing, Flynn Ruling, Immigration Order, COVID Increase

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2020

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Mike & Jay start off by discussing the House and Senate versions of legislation intended to address systemic problems with policing in the United States. They agree that neither side has much reason to compromise in the run-up to the 2020 elections, but they feel that there’s actually a good amount of ground on which a compromise could be possible. After that, they take up the firing of US Attorney Geoffrey Berman. Mike argues that the whole thing was handled incompetently, and Jay feels that it’s yet another example of the GOP not being all that adept at “inside baseball”. Then it’s a look at the DC Circuit’s 2-1 ruling ordering that the charges against Michael Flynn be dismissed. Mike argues that this is extreme judicial activism, and Jay doesn’t disagree, though he sees it as less extreme than Mike does. In the end though, Jay believes that the majority make the right call in a tough case, whereas Mike thinks it’s a clearly wrong decision that should be reversed by the DC Circuit as a whole. Next is President Trump’s immigration order which further restricts entry to various classes of immigrants. The administration argues that this is necessary to protect US workers during the economic crisis stemming from COVID-19, but neither Jay nor Mike buys this argument. Finally, Mike & Jay discuss the significant increase in coronavirus cases as well as the increase in the percentage of positive tests. They both feel that President Trump could show better leadership on the mask issue, but Jay is generally opposed to mandatory mask orders, feeling that societal pressure to wear masks is likely to be more effective. Mike’s Weekly Recommendation The Goldman Sans font Jay’s Weekly Recommendation The Revolution Comforts the Comfortable. Kevin Williamson Be part of the discussion on the Politics Guys ‘BipartisanPolitics’ community on Reddit. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the podcast, go to patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Atheists, agnostics, long-haired, weirdos, short-haired weirdos, vand-a-old.

0:05.8

I love the government, hug the government, love the government, hug the government, love the government.

0:12.2

Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:17.6

I'm Michael Baranowski, a professor of political science at North Kentucky University.

0:21.4

I'm joined today by Cleveland area attorney and Republican factotum Jay Carson.

0:25.8

Hey, Jay.

0:26.3

Good morning, Mike.

0:27.5

How are you doing this morning?

0:29.5

Oh, I'll tell you, I am more frazzled than a Confederate statue on campus.

0:34.1

Oh, very good.

0:35.1

You had that one ready, locked and loaded.

0:37.1

I love it. Oh, very good. You had that one ready, locked and loaded. I love it. Excellent.

0:38.5

All right. Hey, I'm doing okay myself. I don't have anything particularly witty. Let's hope that

0:44.2

improves over time. But before we do get started, I just want to thank our newest monthly

0:49.8

sustaining supporters on Patreon. We have a bunch of them because I've been off for a couple

0:53.2

weeks of Kirk, Charmick, Suzanne, Ginger, Jorge, Blake, and Noah, who's a sustaining supporters on Patreon. We have a bunch of them because I've been off for a couple weeks.

0:59.5

Kirk, Charmick, Suzanne, Ginger, Jorge, Blake, and Noah, who's a longtime supporter, who recently came back as a Patreon supporter, as well as Francis, who donated to the show through

1:05.5

PayPal. Also, I wanted to highlight a message. I got a little while ago from Chris that, Jay, you'll appreciate this.

1:12.7

I think it really goes to the heart of, you know, what we try to do here on this show.

1:16.4

And Chris wrote, Mike, I disagree with almost everything you say, but I'm definitely challenged by it.

1:23.9

And from time to time, it is definitely popped my bubble.

1:27.4

And that was a really nice thing to

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