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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Policing and Democracy with Brandon del Pozo

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

MS NOW, Chris Hayes

Msnbc, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Government, Politics, Chris Hayes, Why Is This Happening?, Withpod, Versant, Ms Now, News, Society & Culture, Versant Media

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2020

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

As protesters across the country continue to march in the wake of the death of George Floyd, a new scrutiny has been placed on our current policing system. Public sentiment has largely swung in favor of police reform, and many would recognize that the current system is in serious need of fixing, if not broken. So, what should be the role of police in society? Brandon del Pozo has a view from the inside, having started his career in the NYPD and spending 4 years as chief of police in Burlington, Vermont. He joins Chris to talk about the limitations and serious problems within our current system and what reform could look like going forward.  Watch this Protest Turn from Peaceful to Violent in 60 Seconds by Brandon del Pozo

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0:00.0

What surprised you about policing when you first started?

0:04.2

I'll be honest, and it's just the amount of authority I had.

0:07.1

Like they gave you this police car and a partner and you go out and you're making decisions.

0:11.3

And I was a 23 maybe when I started, 22, 23.

0:15.1

And I remember saying to people going through marriage crises and going through severe

0:20.2

trauma, saying like in my more honest moments, like I don't exactly know what to tell you.

0:24.4

I'm 23 years old.

0:25.9

But I had the authority to make arrests.

0:27.6

I had the authority to write tickets.

0:29.0

I had the authority to pull and point to gun based on how I felt about danger.

0:34.0

And I thought that was like, it's an amazing feeling.

0:36.9

But now later on when you become a chief of police, you're sort of like yikes.

0:40.6

Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:52.4

Yet another week here in the quarantine closet where God knows how long we'll be in the

0:56.1

quarantine closet.

0:57.8

It's a week in which I was hoping that, well, it's last week of school.

1:04.3

And I had started to allow myself, I made a huge mistake this week, which I started to

1:08.4

convince myself to be optimistic about the future, the trajectory of the virus.

1:14.4

And that's a mistake every time I've done it.

1:17.2

It's a, I'm talking to you on a Friday when Florida just set record cases and things

1:21.4

are not going in a great direction.

1:23.6

That is one of the two kind of major stories it's occupying our consciousness right now.

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