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Matter of Opinion

Police Reform Is Coming. What Should It Look Like?

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Derek Chauvin has been found guilty of the murder of George Floyd. But whatever bittersweet feelings the rare outcome elicited were short-lived, since instances of police brutality compound almost daily. There’s no debate: Policing is broken in America. But how do we fix it? To answer that question, Jane brings together a round table to debate solutions ranging from modernizing training, stronger ties between police misconduct and financial culpability, and divesting from policing to invest in community-based services. Joining Jane is Randy Shrewsberry, a former police officer and the executive director of the Institute for Criminal Justice Training Reform; Rashawn Ray, a professor of sociology at the University of Maryland and a David M. Rubenstein fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution; and Ash-Lee Woodard Henderson, a leader in the Movement for Black Lives and an executive director of the Highlander Research and Education Center in Tennessee.

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0:00.0

Today on the argument, policing is broken, so how should we fix it?

0:09.0

I was the jury, I understand you haven't heard it.

0:14.7

Breaking news, former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin has been found guilty in

0:22.9

the death of George Floyd.

0:27.7

A phone video of Floyd's death horrified Americans and galvanized a nationwide social

0:32.2

justice movement leading to protests in cities across the country and those calls for police

0:38.0

reform.

0:39.0

A measure of justice isn't the same as equal justice.

0:44.8

This verdict brings us a step closer.

0:48.1

We still must reform the system.

0:51.3

Killed by police, less than two days after the palpable relief felt over the guilty verdict

0:57.0

in the Chauvin trial, the Minneapolis area in mourning again as the family of Dante Wright

1:03.1

held his memorial service.

1:09.1

Last week, an anxious America waited the jury's decision.

1:13.2

Officer Derek Chauvin was convicted on all charges for the murder of George Floyd.

1:18.5

But whatever feelings greeted such a rare outcome were short-lived for many.

1:24.0

The next day of Virginia man named Isaiah Brown was on the phone with 911 police dispatch

1:28.9

when a sheriff's deputy shot him ten times, allegedly mistaking the phone for a gun.

1:34.6

It feels like every day in America there's a new name to learn.

1:38.7

New footage of lethal police violence to witness.

1:42.0

Another community in mourning, pleading for change.

1:45.9

There's no debate here, policing in America is broken.

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