This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.

This is The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick.

This year, The New Yorker published an anthology called A Century of Poetry in The New Yorker.

It was all to help mark the magazine's centennial,

and it was put together by our poetry editor, Kevin Young. The book includes works from

the early days of Dorothy Parker and moves onward and onwards to poems we printed in just

the past few years and months. One of those poets is Gabriel Calvo Carese. Their recent collection called The New Economy was a finalist for the National Book Award this year.

And Calvaceresi sat down recently to talk about it with Kevin Young.

And heads up that some of Calvacarese's work addresses suicide.

And this is going to come up in our conversation as well.

I was so excited about the opportunity to talk with Gabrielle

because they're such a force on the page in person.

And you can hear in their poetry this kind of sense of both community and individuality,

this sorrow and this joy, this idea of ecstasy

and expectation, but it's flecked with real human trial and tribulation, with everyday pain,

but also sort of extraordinary moments.

Can we start today with the title of your new book, The New Economy?

Yeah.

Can you tell us where that title came from?

Because it's not a book about the stock market or inflation, but it is about, you know, what we pay, what the cost of things are in some sense.

Tell us about it.

Yeah, absolutely.

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