I think life's far scarier than death.

Like again, not being religious, death doesn't bother me too much because it's like, well that's that, isn't it?

It's kind of done, that's not.

Yeah, it's done.

Okay, I don't have to worry about that. That's but but life is at

times terrifying. So yeah, I think there's that understanding that that's I'm not some special a unique

creature that happens to find life tough sometimes I think most people have that

and particularly in school and years like that.

It's if you're kidding yourself that you're the only one struggling then you're probably not.

It gets better because it has to get better.

We're all made of human.

Hello, my name is Sophie Hagen and you're listening to the Made of Human

podcast in short mopat it's a podcast in which I speak to nice people about life

trying to find out how to do it, you know, how to be a proper human being.

And if they don't know how to do that, we'll just sit and have a chat and I don't know feel feel less alone together I guess this week I'm speaking to

scrupulous Pipp and holy what a what a shit what a man wow I'm still kind of blown away. So I'll let you listen to a chat in just a tiny bit.

First I am going to tell you that I'm going on tour. Going on to with my brand new show Dead Baby Frog which is a stand-up show about emotional abuse.

Ha ha ha ha.

And the show will be, we'll have a completely gender neutral toilets and all the venues.

All the venues will have disabled access and they will be anxiety safe,

meaning that you can message me.

There's an email address, I think it's, oh yeah, I know it is, it's T-O-U-U-R at Sophiehagen.

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