Happy Tuesday cyclone nation. It's Chris Williams from up here in Ames.

I just got done interview in Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell. Of course,

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All right, here's my weekly conversation with Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell.

I want to start though. You kind of got asked about this briefly in your press conference today

and I'm really fascinated by the current,

like where the NFL is going with offense.

And it infuriates me, Matt, to watch, I've been a proponent of Patrick Mahome since he, before he even played at Texas Tech.

I had seen his, I had seen his high school tapes and I just I thought from day one this guy is going to be a

Stud in the NFL. He could be one of the greatest of all time

When I watch him put up 51 last night on Monday night football, it's all about how great he is and how great the offense is.

When he played in the big 12, it was all about how terrible the defense was in this league.

So I guess the greater point, I'm not throwing shade or anything like that.

I'm just curious about the transition that we're seeing in the National Football League and what you see

because I see a lot of Big 12 roots art Brials Dana Holgerson Mike Leach type

stuff that on Sundays are you are you picking up on that?

Yeah you know I think the it all

starts with one position it's the quarterback position and you know you've

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