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On the Media

Podcast Extra: Jon Ronson and Public Shaming

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🗓️ 2 April 2015

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Brooke talks with Jon Ronson about his new book, So You've Been Publicly Shamed.

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0:00.0

Hi, podcast listeners. I'm here with a midweek on the media special. Last month, Monica Lewinsky made a surprise return to the public stage in the form of a TED talk titled The Price of Shame. In the talk, she spoke candidly about what happened to her in 1998 at the age of 24.

0:19.7

Overnight, I went from being a completely private figure to a publicly humiliated one

0:26.7

worldwide.

0:28.4

An unprecedented shaming made possible by the World Wide Web.

0:32.9

Remember, just a few years earlier, news was consumed from just three places, reading a newspaper or magazine, listening to the radio, or watching television.

0:44.5

That was it.

0:46.0

But that wasn't my fate.

0:49.4

Instead, this scandal was brought to you by the digital revolution.

0:54.7

Lewinsky then situated her own peculiar situation into that context.

0:59.9

She was, she said, patience zero in what became, as we all know, a pandemic.

1:05.6

When this happened to me 17 years ago, there was no name for it.

1:14.2

Now we call it cyberbullying and online harassment.

1:20.9

The talk was a smash hit, tapping into concerns we all share that the game has changed.

1:27.4

We leave huge digital footprints. What is known about us is known everywhere and cannot be unknown.

1:28.8

Journalist John Ronson tackles just this phenomenon in his book, so you've been publicly

1:33.7

shamed.

1:34.7

Here's our interview.

1:36.3

Welcome to the show.

1:37.5

Thank you.

1:38.1

It's nice to be here.

1:39.0

Now, this enterprise started when some academic hackers decided to launch a John Ronson spam bot, right?

1:47.1

Yeah. The problem was that I accidentally typed my name into Google and discovered.

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