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PODCAST BONUS RELEASE: Should the U.S. Ban TikTok?

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Education, Society & Culture, News, Government, Politics

4.52.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The clock is ticking on TikTok. The popular video sharing app is facing a looming deadline of January 19th, when the law effectively banning it in the U.S. is set to go into effect. Unless, that is, the Supreme Court steps in to save it this week. While we wait, we revisit our 2023 debate that asked this prescient question: Should the U.S. Ban TikTok?   Arguing Yes: Kori Schake, Senior Fellow and Director of Foreign and Defense Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute  Arguing No: Milton Mueller, Professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology School of Public Policy; Founder and Director of the Internet Governance Project Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is open to debate. I'm John Donvan. Hi, everybody.

0:37.5

I think Congress and the president were concerned that China was accessing information about millions of Americans, tens of millions of Americans.

0:46.6

That is the voice of Justice Kavanaugh speaking on Friday, as the Supreme Court heard arguments about the much-discussed TikTok ban.

0:54.1

Including teenagers, people in their 20s, that they would use that information over time to

1:00.7

develop spies, to turn people, to blackmail people, people who a generation from now will be

1:07.5

working in the FBI or the CIA or in the State Department.

1:12.8

The decision to be made whether the new law banning TikTok, which is set to kick in on January 19th, is a violation of the First Amendment.

1:20.4

The Act directly restricts the First Amendment rights of American creators to participate and speak

1:27.3

and with a court a little less than a decade ago called the Modern Public Square. The First Amendment rights of American creators to participate and speak,

1:31.0

and with a court a little less than a decade ago called the Modern Public Square.

1:36.1

And what you might say today is the most vibrant speech forum in the United States of America.

1:41.6

Our debate, should the U.S. ban TikTok gets right to the heart of the questions the court was looking at,

1:43.9

is TikTok a national security risk? Would a ban effectively

1:45.3

censor U.S. citizens who are using the app? When we first posed this question, it was 23,

1:51.9

and the ban was still quite hypothetical. Now 170 million TikTok users are holding their breath,

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