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Psychedelic Salon

Podcast 648 – “Terence McKenna and Social Distancing”

Psychedelic Salon

Lorenzo Hagerty

Science, Philosophy, Natural Sciences, Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.8568 Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2020

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Support Lorenzo on Patreon.com Guest speaker: Terence McKenna PROGRAM NOTES: [NOTE: All quotations are by Terence McKenna.] "A person who does DMT once a year is a fanatically heavy user, I would say." "One way of judging how toxic a drug, or a plant, is is to ask yourself the question 'How long after I take it do I feel completely normal?' " "You want a surgical strike on the synapses, is what you're going for, not splattering all kinds of junk all over the place." "Growing the mushroom teaches you cleanliness, punctuality, attention to detail, steadiness, all of these virtues, which are the very virtues you need to travel smoothly in that dimension [on a magic mushroom trip]." "Here's a career for somebody. No hallucinogenic insect has ever been found, and yet there are persistent rumors in different parts of the world of either a butterfly or a beetle that is hallucinogenic." "As to why [psychoactive plants] have this peculiar effect that they do in us, I think that's because there was, anciently, and over the evolutionary life of human beings, actually a connection between us and nature. And that these drugs are the antenna, the switches that switch us back toward the Logos of the natural world." "This is something people don't realize, flowering plants are as recent as mammals. If the period of life on Earth is visualized as a yardstick, the period of the flowering plants is the last inch and a half." "[Psychedelics] are the [corrosive] acids of anarchy." Download MP3 PCs – Right click, select option Macs – Ctrl-Click, select option Download free copies of Lorenzo's latest books

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0:00.0

Greetings from Cyberdelian Space.

0:07.0

...leguistic artchids.

0:10.0

...and I'm your host here in the psychedelic salon.

0:24.6

And I want to begin today by apologizing for the misleading title of this podcast. Now it is true that you will be hearing from Terence McKenna in this podcast today.

0:36.3

For example, even though this talk

0:39.1

was given over 25 years ago, he nonetheless does have a few things to say in this talk that are,

0:45.1

well, they're still kind of pertinent right now. For example, he says,

0:49.0

You know, our idea of nature is that it's all tooth and claw. Surv survival of the fittest and the devil take the hindmost.

0:57.0

The new version of evolution is entirely different.

1:02.0

It says the way you attain survival is by making yourself indispensable to everybody else.

1:09.0

So it's not by triumphing over the ecosystem, but by integrating

1:15.3

yourself so thoroughly into it that it can't function without you. Then you're on your way

1:21.0

to being a dominant species, not by crushing the opposition. But Terence won't be talking about social distancing in this podcast.

1:31.4

I'm going to talk about that.

1:33.7

Of course, even that is kind of misleading because I'm going to talk about the opposite of

1:39.1

social distancing, which today means forming digital communities and getting together on lines.

1:45.3

And in my world, it's in ways other than through Facebook.

1:49.8

Now, the reason I want to add my comments at the beginning of a Terrence McKenna talk

1:53.9

is that if I put my comments in a standalone podcast, well, not nearly as many people will download it.

2:04.0

That's just the truth. But I think that you will want this information because I'm now hosting four live salons every week, and you

2:10.1

and your friends are invited to join us. On top of that, with some help from other saloners,

2:16.4

we now have a 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week chat room open just for the

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